Sgt. Richard Desautels

American POWs Kept Behind After the Korean War

What Happened to Them?

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American POWs Kept Behind After the Korean War

What Happened to Them?

 










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UN Report Confirms ROK POWs Held After the War

 Gives Short Shrift to Unrepatriated US Prisoners

Good news: the United Nations Human Rights report on North Korea released on Feb. 17th confirms Pyongyang held back POWs it was supposed to release at the end of the Korean War in 1953. The report offers chilling evidence on the fate of unrepatriated South Korean (Republic of Korea/ROK) POWs and their families. It also raises the issue of ROK POWs captured during the Vietnam War and sent from Vietnam to North Korea (there is some evidence the same fate befell some US POWs).


Disgracefully, the UN gives short shrift to US and other allied members of the United Nations forces not returned at the end of the war (the US, South Koreans and more than a dozen other allies officially fought under the United Nations during the Korean War). The UN does not mention cases of Americans known alive in North Korean hands at the end of the war, such as the Ashley Five (see their story here), or the numerous reports of American POWs alive in North Korea long after the official end of the conflict.


"The Commission heard allegations, relating to the fate of missing soldiers serving under the United Nations Command, particularly soldiers from the United States of America. According to the Coalition of Families of Korean and Cold War Prisoners of War and Persons Missing in Action, at the end of the Korean War during the exchanges of prisoners some United States soldiers, who were known to have been alive and in captivity with those who had been released, were not handed over by the DPRK authorities."


This section of the report garbles some information provided to it by the Coalition of Families of Korean and Cold War POW/MIAs, leaves out much more data provided to the UN (inc. sightings of alleged US POWs alive in North Korea decades after the war) and includes a non-sequitur wartime quote from the Chinese.

 
See details here.
 
The bottom line: The evidence North Korean kept many South Korean POWs is confirmed in the UN report. If the North Koreans kept ROK POWs, why would they not keep Americans? If intelligence reports of ROK POWs surviving long after the war turned out to be accurate, why wouldn't similar reports on Americans also be true?

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United Nations Comes Through

for US POW/MIAs Reported in North Korea

 

John Zimmerlee -- expert and son of an aviator missing in Korea -- testified 10/31/13 to the United Nations Commission of Inquiry (COI) on Human Rights in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. (click here for more on the Commission). 

 

John's emotional testimony included points from his prepared remarks (below), but also answers to a number of questions from Commission Chairman Michael Kirby. John asked the UN to press the US National Archives to release thousands of documents involving the POW issue still kept classified. He also remarked that given reports of surviving American prisoners being allowed to marry North Korean women, he might have brothers or sisters in North Korea.

 

John promised to provide additional information requested by the COI and thanked Chairman Kirby and Commissioner Biserko for their interest.

 

1)      I am here to speak for almost 8,000 families across America whose loved ones never returned from North Korea after the Korean War.  Many more families around the world are in the same situation: those still missing in North Korea include men from South Korea and many of the 17 nations fighting on the UN side during the war.


 

2)      No other North Korean human rights issue has impacted the United States longer or more widely than the refusal of Pyongyang to resolve the fate of American prisoners reported alive in North Korea and to open its files and warehouse of human remains to account for our dead in that nation.

 

3)      We want to thank the United Nations Commission of Inquiry for its work, especially because all of these missing men were fighting under the United Nations flag when we lost them. United Nations Resolution 906 called for the release of all captive UN troops, this has still not happened.

 

4)      We know for a fact that North Korea held many of our loved ones alive and never returned them. For example, Gilbert Ashley and Hidemaro Ashley, along with three others in their crew, were confirmed alive after the armistice ending the Korean War was signed. United Nations commanders radioed radioed their captors saying North Korea could not deny holding these men and had to return them. That never happened. Their families continue to anguish over their fates. What happened to them? Could they still be alive.

 

5)     This is Sam Logan. Not only did the North Koreans capture him, they allowed his picture to be published around the world. Pyongyang never released him or accounted for him.

 

6)      In thousands of cases, our loved ones simply disappeared without a trace.

 

7)      This is my father – Capt. John Henry Zimmerlee, who went missing somewhere in North Korea.

8)      Over the years, escaping North Koreans have told us of surviving US POWs (along with British and perhaps other nationals) still alive in North Korea. For example, a former North Korean secret policeman told us he had seen 20 or more surviving US prisoners repeatedly during the 1980s and 1990s. They lived in a special area outside Pyongyang and he even shared a beer with some of them once. There are other credible reports. There is no doubt South Korean POWs are still alive – so why not Americans? North Korea needs to tell us who they are and allow them to see their families again.

 

 

 

9)      We understand that many men simply cannot be found after a war. And many of our men died during the conflict as prisoners or on the battlefield. In the case of these men, we simply ask North Korea to follow basic humanitarian principles and share what they know with the families of the missing. Unfortunately, in most cases North Korea has so far refused. For example, we have found the ID cards of missing men displayed as war trophies in a North Korea museum – and North Korea will not account for those men. In addition, it has been proven that North Korea warehouses the remains of  Americans lost in the Korean War. We ask North Korea to return those remains and provide the information from its files to help account for our missing.

 

10)  Dear Commissioners: Families across the United States and world ask you to help shed light on the POW issue as part of your inquiry, and to hold North Korea accountable to international human rights laws and norms regarding our loved ones. Thank you very much for your work and the opportunity to speak for the families today.

The wartime film immediately below of American POWs in Pyongyang, and stills from it, have been released before. Please help us identify the men; send tips to investigator@kpows.com

 

See a bit lower a film not widely seen until recently; we also need your help identifying those US prisoners.

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It reminds us that many South Korean POWs from 1953 are still reported alive in North Korea; some have escaped in recent years. Read about the Soviet soldier here and South Korean POWs here.

Feb13 Update: Pentagon Says It Did Not Have Video and

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"New" Film of Korean War POWs (US and ROK)?

Can You Identify the Prisoners?

See the Video Below; Click Here for More Stills

 

We recently found this Air Force film. Much of it appears to be from early in the war. Our friends at the National Alliance of Families and Coalition of Families (see lower left of this page), two leading POW/MIA groups, say they've never seen this film.

If you can identify any of these men, or have details about this film, please email: investigator (at) kpows.com

We're also interested in whether DPMO, the Pentagon POW office, has this film and what if anything they've done to investigate it. See the full version below.

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How Do We Know the Communists Kept American Prisoners After Korea?

Numerous US intelligence reports during and after the war  -- from Soviet officers to refugees -- documented the movement of American POWs out of North Korea to China and the Soviet Union. For example, Army intelligence confirmed and monitored secret prison camps  in China -- no Americans returned from them. Hundreds of prisoners held in North Korean camps the communists did acknowlege  -- such as Sgt. Richard Desautels, above -- were not released at the end of the war. In the years since, information about their survival in Russia, China and North Korea has continued to emerge.
The General in Charge Admitted US POWs Were Kept Back

 

 

 "I was in a quandry. The question to me was, 'How do you get these people back without pointing a gun at the communists?' When you have no gun threatening the Reds, there is no way to demand and enforce compliance from them," said General Mark Clark, Commander-in-Chief of UN and US forces, seen here signing the truce that ended the Korean War.

The Pentagon Wanted Covert Action to Recover Them After the War

The US Government Asked Moscow to Give Them Back
In 1954, the U.S. Embassy in Moscow delivered a note to the Soviet government asking it “to arrange their (U.S. POWs taken from Korea to the Soviet Union) repatriation at the earliest possible time.” The Soviets responded by denying they had the prisoners.

So Why Isn't the US Government Doing More to Find These Lost Heroes?

By 1955, the US government had in large part determined it could never recover the lost men. “The problem becomes almost a philosophical one," concluded a then-classified 1955 Pentagon memo. "If we are ‘at war,’ cold, hot or otherwise, casualties and losses must be expected and perhaps we must learn to live with this sort of thing. If we are in for fifty years of peripheral ‘fire fights’ we may be forced to adopt a rather cynical attitude on this (the POWs) for the political reasons.”

 

Today's Pentagon POW/MIA effort focuses mostly on recovering remains of those known killed since WWII, an important task it does well. This involves determining where to look for the remains of missing (almost always those our former enemies claim were killed in battle during the war) and then recovering and identifying them.

 

There is no appetite for a relentless effort to trace those men known to have been kept after Korea. The Pentagon can expect no real help from the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans. And there is no pressure from the White House or Congress.

 

Imagine what the American leaders of 1953, not to mention the prisoners and their families, would think, especially given the cordial relations America has granted Beijing and Moscow, and the very food to keep alive many North Koreans, without ever requiring the truth about our lost heroes.



Declassified U.S. government records and other intelligence demonstrate that -- despite decades of official denials from both sides -- the communists secretly held U.S. prisoners during and after the war. Reports continued of their survival in North Korea, China and the Soviet Union following the war. What happened to them? The U.S. government owes these brave men and their families a relentless, high-priority effort to uncover the truth.

Take Sgt.Richard Desautels (picture at top). A known POW in a North Korean camp, he feared his Chinese captors would keep him, telling a fellow U.S. prisoner: "(I)f he should disappear to make inquires concerning his whereabouts with the proper military authorities...." When asked by America what happened to him, the Chinese in 1956 claimed he'd "escaped" during the war (they said the same about another GI who was a double amputee). For decades both China and the Pentagon insisted there was no evidence Sgt. Desautels had been secretly shipped to China.

Examples of the attitudes of the Pentagon and Chinese (the Russians have been little better): In 1990, Defense Intelligence Agency Deputy Director Rear Admiral Ronald Marryott provided a written statement to Congress concerning American prisoners in North Korea that stated “there are no intelligence indicators that U.S. personnel from the Korean conflict were not returned to U.S. control at the end of the war.” He went on to state that the Soviet Union and China had also been under intense US intelligence scrutiny for many decades. “I believe this scrutiny would have likewise revealed at least a hint of American prisoners held in either country had they been taken there. Again, no such evidence has ever surfaced,” he stated. He was in sync with the Chinese government, which in 1992 claimed: “The Chinese side settled the issue of American prisoners of the Korean War long ago…None of the POWs under Chinese control was transferred to a third country or to the Chinese territory.”

Then in 2003, Beijing admitted he'd been taken, but said he'd soon died of "mental illness" and China had lost his body (coincidentally, in a place wartime U.S. intelligence indicated was a trans-shipment point to Siberia.) Beijing even conceded it still had a classified file on the Sgt. But the Pentagon has failed to get that file or the full story about Desautels -- or hundreds of other Americans reported to have suffered similar fates.